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dee
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 Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 11:59 pm�� �Post subject: jennifer lopez and halle berry and white men |
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This message is to Josh or anyone who can help me understand better what you meant when you wrote Jennifer Lopez didn't have to "ho-out" like Halle Berry? Both Jennifer Lopez and Halle Berry are non-white females, but one had to get completely naked with a white man, and the other did not? Why do you suspect that to be the case? They are both non-white females, why is one treated differently than the other in respect to sexual relations with white males?
Is it because one is lighter than the other?
Dee
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Dan Freeman
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:53 am�� �Post subject: ok.. |
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Well if may chime in here....
For starters, Ihave heard a substantial number of White people say that Halle Berry and J-Lo are NOT white people.
So Halle and J-Lo are both Non white people (aka COLORED people).
**meaning they are both victims-of-racism
What is the benifit of comparing and contrasting what two non white people are able to do fuctionally under a system of Race/Racsim/White Supremacy?
I say this because whatever it is they both can do, they can't:FUNCTION AS WHITE PEOPLE.
Period.
Now for the record. Both Halle and J-Lo have had to get butt-ass-naked for white men in movies not just Halle Berry in Monsters Ballz.
J-Lo was very naked when she was having sex with sean penn and Nick Nolte in the film U-turn 1997.
Ok.
So now you have two non white females who have both been in newd sex scenes in movies with white men.
One has lighter skin than the other.
One is engaded to be married to a white man.
One is married to a black male.
One has a parent who is a white woman.
Does any of previous information make Halle or Jennifer any less of a victim-of-racsim?
If not, then what are we talkin about?
Bottom line, Halle and J-lo have the same problem: RACISM/WHITE SUPREMACY
And as it stands both Halle and J-lo are victims of that same problem.
smallz
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:44 am�� �Post subject: |
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I would concur with smallz and add that Unlike Halle, J Lo can also sing and so has a little more leverage to fall back on. But the bottom line is; The most powerful actresses are the ones who refuse to strip for the camera.
I don't have my list with me but I suspect most of them are White women.
You should watch them instead of Halle and J Lo.
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Edward Williams
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:20 am�� �Post subject: Re: jennifer lopez and halle berry and white men |
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| dee wrote: |
This message is to Josh or anyone who can help me understand better what you meant when you wrote Jennifer Lopez didn't have to "ho-out" like Halle Berry? Both Jennifer Lopez and Halle Berry are non-white females, but one had to get completely naked with a white man, and the other did not? Why do you suspect that to be the case? They are both non-white females, why is one treated differently than the other in respect to sexual relations with white males?
Is it because one is lighter than the other?
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Dee,
Who said "Jennifer Lopez didn't have to "ho-out" like Halle Berry"? It is best to ask the person who said it if you want to get the meaning of what was said. This helps to minimize confusion.
Smallz is on point. Non-white people spend an enormous amount of time watching each other...not white people...and white people know it. I'd like to know what other females auditioned for the "Trinity" part in The Matrix. If one of those females that auditioned was non-white and if so who was it and if so why did the white woman get the part?
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 7:26 am�� �Post subject: Re: jennifer lopez and halle berry and white men |
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"Why is one treated differently than the other"
Dee |
I agree with Smallz, he is very articulate in his explanation about this matter. From the perspective of non-white people wanting to replace white supremacy with justice, I recommend we not make such comparisons of the relative "comforts" afforded by the white supremacists to one victim of racism as juxtaposed against another. I will explain my bottom line: When the scales of justice tip in the direction of a non-white person logically some white person will lose some degree of supremacy in one of the nine areas of people activity. To the extent that white person is a white supremacist, this loss of IDENTITY becomes a flashpoint causing violent reaction against victims of racism. Once white supremacy is replaced with justice, such comparisons between people will be foolish and unnecessary because balancing the scales of Justice puts critically needed resources into the hands of those who were formerly crippled by injustice. No need to speak of the wound which has already healed.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 6:16 pm�� �Post subject: Re: jennifer lopez and halle berry and white men |
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I'd like to know what other females auditioned for the "Trinity" part in The Matrix. If one of those females that auditioned was non-white and if so who was it and if so why did the white woman get the part?
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Believe it or not appearance is a big part in casting people, and appearance doesn't just mean how tall they are or how ugly they aren't. It's also their skin color.
Just like they purposefully casted Morpheus as a black man, they purposefully casted Trinity as a white chick.
No- there's nothing wrong with it. Blacks do it too. Ever seen "How High"? Remember that Asian guy and the chubby white guy? Remember that nerdy security guard? You think it was just random chance that people of those races got those roles?
It's not racist to cast roles based on race. They cast roles based on age, height, hotness, and many other non-changable appearance-related measures.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:57 pm�� �Post subject: Re: ok.. |
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What is the benifit of comparing and contrasting what two non white people are able to do fuctionally under a system of Race/Racsim/White Supremacy?
I say this because whatever it is they both can do, they can't:FUNCTION AS WHITE PEOPLE.
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Under the system of legislated slavery there were two kinds of slaves: one lived up in the house with massa, and de udder stayed out in de fields. Both were slaves but each had access to different ways and means to get extra food or plan runaways and insurrections.
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| I'd like to know what other females auditioned for the "Trinity" part in The Matrix. If one of those females that auditioned was non-white and if so who was it and if so why did the white woman get the part? |
Don't you think Thomas Anderson/Neo was cast first? With the male lead on board, do you think 'Hollywood' would cast a non-white woman to play opposite romantically?
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:24 pm�� �Post subject: Re: ok.. |
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| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| I'd like to know what other females auditioned for the "Trinity" part in The Matrix. If one of those females that auditioned was non-white and if so who was it and if so why did the white woman get the part? |
Don't you think Thomas Anderson/Neo was cast first? |
I don't know.
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| With the male lead on board, do you think 'Hollywood' would cast a non-white woman to play opposite romantically? |
I don't know. Who is "Hollywood"?
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:47 am�� �Post subject: Re: ok.. |
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| I'd like to know what other females auditioned for the "Trinity" part in The Matrix. If one of those females that auditioned was non-white and if so who was it and if so why did the white woman get the part? |
Don't you think Thomas Anderson/Neo was cast first? |
I don't know.
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| With the male lead on board, do you think 'Hollywood' would cast a non-white woman to play opposite romantically? |
I don't know. Who is "Hollywood"? |
The most powerful people in the world's most powerful film-making community.
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Edward Williams
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:00 am�� �Post subject: Re: ok.. |
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| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| I'd like to know what other females auditioned for the "Trinity" part in The Matrix. If one of those females that auditioned was non-white and if so who was it and if so why did the white woman get the part? |
Don't you think Thomas Anderson/Neo was cast first? |
I don't know.
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| With the male lead on board, do you think 'Hollywood' would cast a non-white woman to play opposite romantically? |
I don't know. Who is "Hollywood"? |
The most powerful people in the world's most powerful film-making community. |
Are you referring to white people?
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Dark Switch
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:17 am�� �Post subject: Re: ok.. |
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| I'd like to know what other females auditioned for the "Trinity" part in The Matrix. If one of those females that auditioned was non-white and if so who was it and if so why did the white woman get the part? |
Don't you think Thomas Anderson/Neo was cast first? |
I don't know.
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| With the male lead on board, do you think 'Hollywood' would cast a non-white woman to play opposite romantically? |
I don't know. Who is "Hollywood"? |
The most powerful people in the world's most powerful film-making community. |
Are you referring to white people? |
A few non-whites have some power in Hollywood. However, the majority of the most powerful are whites and some of them practice racism (white supremacy).
I could be incorrect.
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Edward Williams
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:20 am�� �Post subject: Re: ok.. |
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| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| I'd like to know what other females auditioned for the "Trinity" part in The Matrix. If one of those females that auditioned was non-white and if so who was it and if so why did the white woman get the part? |
Don't you think Thomas Anderson/Neo was cast first? |
I don't know.
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| With the male lead on board, do you think 'Hollywood' would cast a non-white woman to play opposite romantically? |
I don't know. Who is "Hollywood"? |
The most powerful people in the world's most powerful film-making community. |
Are you referring to white people? |
A few non-whites have some power in Hollywood. However, the majority of the most powerful are whites and some of them practice racism (white supremacy).
I could be incorrect. |
I suspect you are correct. I got some power but white people can undo anything I do in less time than it takes me to do it.
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ladyz
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| well I've been researching it and it is known in the international community that the Zionist in Hollywood are the most racist people on the planet. I recall a family member of mine who told me to never purchase any 'Woody Allen' movies because he is suspect; the only black persont that has been in any of his films is Whoopie and a family member of mine told me he will never watch his movies because he is a racist and it shows in everyway. |
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Edward Williams
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:28 pm�� �Post subject: Re: |
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| ladyz wrote: |
| well I've been researching it and it is known in the international community that the Zionist in Hollywood are the most racist people on the planet. I recall a family member of mine who told me to never purchase any 'Woody Allen' movies because he is suspect; the only black persont that has been in any of his films is Whoopie and a family member of mine told me he will never watch his movies because he is a racist and it shows in everyway. |
Is a "zionist" a white person or a non-white person?
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ladyz
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Mr. Williams,
I understood a Zionist to be a white person that operates within the system to serve her/his' purpose. |
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