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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: |
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hakeema wrote: |
Peace and blessing,
Anyone can answer, but I would like to know Cloudsong's answer also. I would like to know from her how she came up with that theory because under the system of white supremacy I am assuming that non-white males have no power to dominate nothing.
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Good luck, but I don't think you're gonna get cloudsong to answer those questions for you on the WSP. You can try tracking her down on TheCode.Net's Discussion Board and ask her there. White people usually don't post on this site because people who post on this site either have to post a Counter-Racism Science Experiment and/or ask a question. Everyone knows who has posted here in the past and/or who read the FAQ that their posts will be deleted when posting if the posts do not meet the requirements laid out in the FAQ.
There aren't a lot of non-white people who think scientifically in terms of replacing racism (white supremacy) with justice so you may not see many posts here. This ain't no pat-on-the-back-feel-good-session-kinda-chat-room. Usually, people who have been mistreated...downtrodden...misused and abused...they want to feel good as soon as they possibly can and will even misuse other people who are already being abused in order to feel good about themselves. THE WSP is for people interested in replacing the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) with a SYSTEM of justice using the United-Independent strategy. _________________ What is the reason YOU were born into a SYSTEM of INJUSTICE if not to replace it with a SYSTEM of JUSTICE? |
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Edward Williams Site Admin

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: Re: |
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To answer your questions...
hakeema wrote: |
cloudsong wrote: |
As a white female I find a difference between white females dating black males and white males dating white females.
Males are more dominant than females in this society, so a black male has more power just gender-wise than a black female. A black male with a white female is one-down in terms of white supremacy, but is one-up in terms of gender supremacy.
cloudsong |
Peace and blessing to everyone
I have a question regarding this statement. How can a non-white male practice gender supremacy against a under the system of white supremacy. |
I don't know. It appears, as with most of the posts of white people, to be an effort to guide the conversation away from how racism (white supremacy) functions and especially what to do to replace racism (white supremacy) with justice.
hakeema wrote: |
For example, when I look at the history of lynching of non-white males in the United States, the main reason why they were lynched was because white females lied about being raped by non-white males. Anytime a white female said something about a non-white male touching her, non-white males were lynched. Also white women was there in the crowds while the lynching was going on., and helped white males cut off the gentials of the non-white male.
I am just trying to understand this statement. Another question I want to ask, Are non-white males considered men under the system of white supremacy? |
Yes, non-white males even consider themselves as men under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) but when you begin to ask us questions about what it means to be a man, meaning the criteria for being a man functionally, you get answers that in no way shape or form contain any speech and/or action that produces evidence that to be a man means being against the smartest and mot POWERFUL white people.
hakeema wrote: |
What are non-white males considered under the system of white supremacy? |
Functionally non-white males are boys under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). With only 5 major social categories, men, women, boys, girls, and babies, there are even a lot of non-white males who are shooting for that "girl" category no thanks to the white supremacists (racists).
Non-white males used to call each other "baby" and probably still do. I've always thought that was odd. Calling their female counterparts "momma". Calling their house a "crib". Calling white males "the man"...meaning the one and only man. Walking around here drinking a big 'ole 40 ounce bottle of what they consider to be nourishment...in the form of alcohol...with their security blanket in the form of a rag or bandannas. This is us and we understand that it happens but are not able to put it together in our minds why it happens until we connect it with being mistreated on the basis of color. After being called boy for so long under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) we thought we'd try a different category for a change. That didn't work because to strive to be a man under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy), meaning replacing the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) with a SYSTEM of justice, is the only time non-white males look like we have any sense at all. So some of us found out and a lot of us are still finding out that the "baby" category doesn't fit us. What's next?
Non-white males equate being called "boy" with what is called "slavery" and that "boy" is only a functional category during the "slavery" period. If this is true, and slavery no longer exists, why do we get mad when white people call us "boy"? It is because "slavery" still exists it is just more refined. The smartest and most POWERFUL white people no longer need chains to keep you. Now, non-white people will kill to be around white people even to the point of risking their own life, which is what is going on right now...today...with people risking their life floating on boats and whatever else they can find trying to get to where the white people are. But I digress...So we are trying to get away from that term "boy" and now instead we use the term "dog", which incidentally is "man's best friend". And who is "the man"? Meaning, best friend of the man...meaning not doing anything against "the man". And we carry this all throughout every area of people activity...even the 8th area of people activity known as SEX where we say the best sexual position is "doggy style". We are sick. Dogs smell another dog's anus. That's really the focus. That is part of the feminizing of non-white males. Driving non-white males to the "girl" category and the racists (white supremacists) are pushing that real hard...no pun intended. So, what's next?
So baby don't work for us and we're trying to stay away from the "boy" category...even to the point of going to the animal category of K-9, which doesn't work either. So, what's next? The "girl" category? The smartest and most POWERFUL white people are pushing that agenda big time...getting more and more non-white males into the position of the "girl" category, which makes non-white males even less of a threat to the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). This means more non-white males into prison, more non-white females raising non-white males on their own, more focus for non-white females on non-white males being with each other, and so on and so forth. We get most of our information from the smartest and most POWERFUL white people...about each other...and that information fits their agenda of maintaining, expanding, and/or refining the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy).
hakeema wrote: |
Sometimes I do notice white males still referring to non-white males as boy, even in today's times.
I am a non-white female.
Hakeema
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I apologize for being lengthy in my response. I posted a part of a Welsing Institute Meeting that I attended in 2001. It was my first. Dr. Welsing talks a little about this in her lecture. You may find it interesting. You can find it at the link below:
Dr. Frances Cress-Welsing - Welsing Institute 2001 _________________ What is the reason YOU were born into a SYSTEM of INJUSTICE if not to replace it with a SYSTEM of JUSTICE? |
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NeelyKnows
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:03 am Post subject: Re: "hidden" sexual activity |
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Josh wrote: |
The reason its called "hidden" is because Black females tend to take a low key approach to sexual activity with White males. I have observed this. The Black males like to "showboat" with White women: "look at me, look at me...Im with a White women..."
A Black male will take a White female to an all Black club sooner than a Black female will take a White man to the same. When I want to see Black females with White males in public, I hafta go to certain places and even then it can be hard to tell they are "together".
Males are notorious for trying to get as much sex as possible, that is often the basis for a males interaction with a female. On the other hand, females are looking for commitment, marriage and public validation of a relationship.
Since this is not possible between Black people and White people in a system of White supremacy, the default mode for the Black female goes to "material acquisition" i.e. What kinds of things can they get in exchange for the sexual activity.
This makes it seem like prostitution.
Rather than deal with all the issues I mentioned, many Black females just keep their sexual activity with White men "hidden", and it appears the White males don't have a problem with that.
If I want some sex from a Black female, I gotta "put in some work": she's all in my business, I gotta meet her parents, shes gotta meet mine, I gotta cut her grass, I hafta go to boring parties and be seen holding hands with her, public displays of affection...the whole nine yards.
Meanwhile, the White man can just get the pussy and spend some money.
You hafta think about what the White person values about the relationship. In my own family, 3 of my siblings were married to White people, and in each case the White person was not interested in having a child. Each was divorced with White children from a previous marriage to a White person
As an experiment, go to a nice hotel on sunday morning and have brunch. I think you will see some of this "hidden" sexual activity between White men and Black females.
Josh |
This helps to confirm my belief and solidifies Dr Frances Cress Welsing statement about racism being about sex. |
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Edward Williams Site Admin

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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:41 am Post subject: Re: "hidden" sexual activity |
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NeelyKnows wrote: |
Josh wrote: |
The reason its called "hidden" is because Black females tend to take a low key approach to sexual activity with White males. I have observed this. The Black males like to "showboat" with White women: "look at me, look at me...Im with a White women..."
A Black male will take a White female to an all Black club sooner than a Black female will take a White man to the same. When I want to see Black females with White males in public, I hafta go to certain places and even then it can be hard to tell they are "together".
Males are notorious for trying to get as much sex as possible, that is often the basis for a males interaction with a female. On the other hand, females are looking for commitment, marriage and public validation of a relationship.
Since this is not possible between Black people and White people in a system of White supremacy, the default mode for the Black female goes to "material acquisition" i.e. What kinds of things can they get in exchange for the sexual activity.
This makes it seem like prostitution.
Rather than deal with all the issues I mentioned, many Black females just keep their sexual activity with White men "hidden", and it appears the White males don't have a problem with that.
If I want some sex from a Black female, I gotta "put in some work": she's all in my business, I gotta meet her parents, shes gotta meet mine, I gotta cut her grass, I hafta go to boring parties and be seen holding hands with her, public displays of affection...the whole nine yards.
Meanwhile, the White man can just get the pussy and spend some money.
You hafta think about what the White person values about the relationship. In my own family, 3 of my siblings were married to White people, and in each case the White person was not interested in having a child. Each was divorced with White children from a previous marriage to a White person
As an experiment, go to a nice hotel on sunday morning and have brunch. I think you will see some of this "hidden" sexual activity between White men and Black females.
Josh |
This helps to confirm my belief and solidifies Dr Frances Cress Welsing statement about racism being about sex. |
Here's something that may interest you:
http://counter-racism.com/cgi-bin/work-study/viewtopic.php?t=277 _________________ What is the reason YOU were born into a SYSTEM of INJUSTICE if not to replace it with a SYSTEM of JUSTICE? |
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Its not a secret now.
I do believe that the reason why BW will not tell the truth about what really happens in these sexual arrangements is because it is quite possibly one of the worst things they could experience and also, telling the truth would leave a "stain" on them.
I have known since I was a teenager, over 2 decades ago that BW were having sex with WM and from their own mouths, how disgusting it really got. Unfortunately, your average BW who "dates" a WM is no different than your average black porn star.
Considering that BWs skin color prevents them from being seen as the beauty standard, they have to lead with sex in order to get a WM attention. The sex always happens before they even ask for the WM real name, where he lives, etc. The sex is also so gutter than for most Black females, they indeed have to get inebriated just to perform. Essentially allowing WM to grape and sexually assault them while possibly not remembering what exactly happened. |
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Edward Williams Site Admin

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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 5:55 am Post subject: Re: |
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welsingviews wrote: |
Its not a secret now.
I do believe that the reason why BW will not tell the truth about what really happens in these sexual arrangements is because it is quite possibly one of the worst things they could experience and also, telling the truth would leave a "stain" on them.
I have known since I was a teenager, over 2 decades ago that BW were having sex with WM and from their own mouths, how disgusting it really got. Unfortunately, your average BW who "dates" a WM is no different than your average black porn star.
Considering that BWs skin color prevents them from being seen as the beauty standard, they have to lead with sex in order to get a WM attention. The sex always happens before they even ask for the WM real name, where he lives, etc. The sex is also so gutter than for most Black females, they indeed have to get inebriated just to perform. Essentially allowing WM to grape and sexually assault them while possibly not remembering what exactly happened. |
Have you read Renethia Tate's book? _________________ What is the reason YOU were born into a SYSTEM of INJUSTICE if not to replace it with a SYSTEM of JUSTICE? |
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:52 am Post subject: Re: |
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Edward Williams wrote: |
welsingviews wrote: |
Its not a secret now.
I do believe that the reason why BW will not tell the truth about what really happens in these sexual arrangements is because it is quite possibly one of the worst things they could experience and also, telling the truth would leave a "stain" on them.
I have known since I was a teenager, over 2 decades ago that BW were having sex with WM and from their own mouths, how disgusting it really got. Unfortunately, your average BW who "dates" a WM is no different than your average black porn star.
Considering that BWs skin color prevents them from being seen as the beauty standard, they have to lead with sex in order to get a WM attention. The sex always happens before they even ask for the WM real name, where he lives, etc. The sex is also so gutter than for most Black females, they indeed have to get inebriated just to perform. Essentially allowing WM to grape and sexually assault them while possibly not remembering what exactly happened. |
Have you read Renethia Tate's book? |
I have. She could have gone into much more detail about the actual arrangement is all I am saying. |
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Edward Williams Site Admin

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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:06 am Post subject: Re: |
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welsingviews wrote: |
Edward Williams wrote: |
welsingviews wrote: |
Its not a secret now.
I do believe that the reason why BW will not tell the truth about what really happens in these sexual arrangements is because it is quite possibly one of the worst things they could experience and also, telling the truth would leave a "stain" on them.
I have known since I was a teenager, over 2 decades ago that BW were having sex with WM and from their own mouths, how disgusting it really got. Unfortunately, your average BW who "dates" a WM is no different than your average black porn star.
Considering that BWs skin color prevents them from being seen as the beauty standard, they have to lead with sex in order to get a WM attention. The sex always happens before they even ask for the WM real name, where he lives, etc. The sex is also so gutter than for most Black females, they indeed have to get inebriated just to perform. Essentially allowing WM to grape and sexually assault them while possibly not remembering what exactly happened. |
Have you read Renethia Tate's book? |
I have. She could have gone into much more detail about the actual arrangement is all I am saying. |
Okay. Write a book then and go into more detail. _________________ What is the reason YOU were born into a SYSTEM of INJUSTICE if not to replace it with a SYSTEM of JUSTICE? |
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