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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Racism among "albinos"? |
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Sounds like racism (white supremacy) to me. I'm going to join in on this conversation. It looks like an excellent opprtunity to do some experimentation. I don't understand how there can be white people and non-white people within a group called "albinos" and none of them have "color". Either all "albinos" are white people or they are non-white people.
This is an excellent opportunity for me to learn something.
Thanks Josh.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Racism among "albinos"? |
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| Virtual_GOD wrote: |
Sounds like racism (white supremacy) to me. I'm going to join in on this conversation. It looks like an excellent opprtunity to do some experimentation. I don't understand how there can be white people and non-white people within a group called "albinos" and none of them have "color". Either all "albinos" are white people or they are non-white people.
This is an excellent opportunity for me to learn something.
Thanks Josh. |
I agree.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Racism among "albinos"? |
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Good find Josh.
I think this is an excellent way to illustrate that Racsim/White Supremacy is the result of behavoir INSTEAD OF "Genetics".
Reason/Explanation
Question: If "albino's" all share the same skin color, how can you tell the difference between which "albino" is "white" or "non-white"?
Answer: I suspect the way you tell the difference between which albino is "white" and "non-white" is the difference in behavoir (i.e. function).
Question: What is it that a "white" albino does (functions) that a non-white albino does not do?
Answer: I suspect White "albinos" can practice Whtie Supremacy Racism, whereas non-white "albinos" can only react to it.
As an Illustration:
'Rae Mignon' who is a member of that discussion board stated this:
http://community.albinism.org/2/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=489091824&f=3173092903&m=596109403
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Black and White
It could be that people saught to connect with people they already knew, or they felt there would have some common ground with, but it is not so easy to tell by just looking.
I basically introduced myself to and talked to as many people as I could at the confernce. I will go further to say, that there were some enviroments where i didn't feel comfortable approaching people. I even know of a situation where a black person was insulted with a racist joke at the confernce. This occured Saturday night, when everyone was just really hanging out in little groups. This particular group included all males majority white with one young black man. (I am not saying this to stir up stuff but I am wondering if this happend... how many others feel the same way.) The horrible joke that was told was "Why is asprine white ?..." the answer given was. "So that you will know it works..." Again I am not saying everyone is like this, but just wondering if there are others who think that is acceptable to say to someone of color. There is nothing that could make me beleive that was not said to be offensive. That is definitly drawing a color line... |
White albino's against Black albino's?
Sounds like Racism/White Supremacy to me.
Truth is often stranger than fiction.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly...I started this topic...
http://community.albinism.org/2/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=489091824&f=3173092903&m=353102113
...and have not received any replies. I'm going straight for the bullseye. I asked...
Can a white person be an albino?
Of course the next question is...
Can a non-white person be an albino?
I suspect the answer to both is "YES".
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| Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: |
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I got a response that states white people and non-white people can be albinos. I got that response from a person that says they are a white person. Well...what is the purpose of the website? Whether we're talking about Economics, Education, Entertainment, Labor, Law, Politics, Religion, Sex, or War, we're still talking about there is a problem between white people and non-white people.
Politics is relations between people. I suspect that is what this website is about. It is just a matter of time before they get to the problem of people being mistreated on the basis of color. They're there now.
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| Virtual_GOD wrote: |
I got a response that states white people and non-white people can be albinos. I got that response from a person that says they are a white person. Well...what is the purpose of the website? Whether we're talking about Economics, Education, Entertainment, Labor, Law, Politics, Religion, Sex, or War, we're still talking about there is a problem between white people and non-white people.
Politics is relations between people. I suspect that is what this website is about. It is just a matter of time before they get to the problem of people being mistreated on the basis of color. They're there now. |
This is the most interesting response of them all... The way you handled it... was supurb
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| Yes, I am a 'white' person with albinism |
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| ...are you saying white people and non-white people can be albinos? |
I suspect this white person won't get back to this one.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:00 am Post subject: Re: |
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| Karim wrote: |
| Virtual_GOD wrote: |
I got a response that states white people and non-white people can be albinos. I got that response from a person that says they are a white person. Well...what is the purpose of the website? Whether we're talking about Economics, Education, Entertainment, Labor, Law, Politics, Religion, Sex, or War, we're still talking about there is a problem between white people and non-white people.
Politics is relations between people. I suspect that is what this website is about. It is just a matter of time before they get to the problem of people being mistreated on the basis of color. They're there now. |
This is the most interesting response of them all... The way you handled it... was supurb
| CBHRDT143 wrote: |
| Yes, I am a 'white' person with albinism |
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| ...are you saying white people and non-white people can be albinos? |
I suspect this white person won't get back to this one. |
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| The way you handled it... was supurb |
Karim,
What is it about the way Virtual_God "handled it" that makes it "supurb"?
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:43 am Post subject: Re: |
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| Karim wrote: |
| Virtual_GOD wrote: |
I got a response that states white people and non-white people can be albinos. I got that response from a person that says they are a white person. Well...what is the purpose of the website? Whether we're talking about Economics, Education, Entertainment, Labor, Law, Politics, Religion, Sex, or War, we're still talking about there is a problem between white people and non-white people.
Politics is relations between people. I suspect that is what this website is about. It is just a matter of time before they get to the problem of people being mistreated on the basis of color. They're there now. |
This is the most interesting response of them all... The way you handled it... was supurb
| CBHRDT143 wrote: |
| Yes, I am a 'white' person with albinism |
| Virtual_God wrote: |
| ...are you saying white people and non-white people can be albinos? |
I suspect this white person won't get back to this one. |
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| The way you handled it... was supurb |
Karim,
What is it about the way Virtual_God "handled it" that makes it "supurb"?
Wolfe |
(((Shaking my head)))
Re-read my previous post.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: Racism among "albinos"? |
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I thought all "Albinos" were "Albinos". (White Albinos and Non-White Albinos ?)
but then there is Racism White Supremacy.
This is really interesting because, again, we may have People with the same exact skin color (or "skin disease")
but,
Some Function as White People
others Function as Non-White People (VOR).
In this situation with "Albinos", this may be another case of White People Deciding who gets to Function as White...no matter what COLOR-skin that Person(s) has, White People Decide who is and who is not White and Who gets to Function as White or not.
Ima check out that site a bit more...
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Racism among "albinos"? |
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| RangerX wrote: |
I thought all "Albinos" were "Albinos". (White Albinos and Non-White Albinos ?)
but then there is Racism White Supremacy.
This is really interesting because, again, we may have People with the same exact skin color (or "skin disease")
but,
Some Function as White People
others Function as Non-White People (VOR).
In this situation with "Albinos", this may be another case of White People Deciding who gets to Function as White...no matter what COLOR-skin that Person(s) has, White People Decide who is and who is not White and Who gets to Function as White or not.
Ima check out that site a bit more...
-RangerX
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That is exactly where the conversation has to go. Once you get away from color all you have is deeds. I'm gonna focus on only three questions mainly...
Are you an albino?
Are you a white person?
What does an albino do that nobody else does?
See...but there are non-white people that claim an albino is a mutant on a non-white person. These same non-white people also say that albinos are non-white people...meaning they don't function as white people.
Now here are white people saying they can be albinos as well. Here comes the confusion for the non-white people claiming albinos come from non-white people. It is possible that only non-white people can produce albinos. It is also possible that albinos can be white people or non-white people.
The clincher, in a SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism) is if the person functions as a white person in all places and at all times. There is nowhere else to take the conversation. This ain't no albino supremacy. These people may as well be truck drivers.
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In less than 5 questions, 'cause I'm trying to solve a problem, I've cut straight to the chase. There is a person there who has admitted to being a white person and an albino after I asked the following questions...
Are you an albino?
Are you a white person?
This person even posted their picture. Now I want to know what a white person does that a white person with albinism can't do. That is where you really want to take the conversation. Gotta eventually go to deeds because the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism) is a behavioral (deeds) SYSTEM. White people will try to keep you from going to deeds...meaning what a white person does that nobody else does.
Many non-white people may talk back-and-forth for hours or even days about albinism and the effects on the nervous system versus the effects of melanin on the nervous system, etc....but I ain't got that luxury because after that conversation is over I'm still a nigger...and what's even worse...I'm feeling better about being one.
The question on the table is...
What does a white person do that a white person with albinism can't do?
What do you think the response will be?
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The question on the table is...
What does a white person do that a white person with albinism can't do?
What do you think the response will be? |
Hmmm...
Its only a guess but I say they will give you some response about "sun tanning" and how a White person with albinism cannot play volley ball at the beach during spring break...
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| Josh wrote: |
VGOD wrote:
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The question on the table is...
What does a white person do that a white person with albinism can't do?
What do you think the response will be? |
Hmmm...
Its only a guess but I say they will give you some response about "sun tanning" and how a White person with albinism cannot play volley ball at the beach during spring break...
Josh |
Neither can a white person without sunblock.
Check this out...there is even a discussion board for non-white people with albinism...isn't that white supremacy (racism)?
http://p219.ezboard.com/bsocialissuesofalbinism
Check out what they say about it in this brief caption...
http://www.albinism.org/linkspecific.html
The Golden Child Welcome to a site dedicated to a small but fascinating segment of the population. PEOPLE OF COLOR WITH ALBINISM
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VGOD wrote:
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The question on the table is...
What does a white person do that a white person with albinism can't do?
What do you think the response will be? |
Hmmm...
Its only a guess but I say they will give you some response about "sun tanning" and how a White person with albinism cannot play volley ball at the beach during spring break...
Josh |
http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL483/1154813/4311606/53769180.jpg
I would never so much as suspect that the woman in that photograph was an albino unless she said so. Perhaps she has orange eyes. I don't know. I suspect this is the reason that non-white albinos believe that only non-white people can be albinos. Because an albino could almost be defined by most niggers as a white person with bad eyesight.
I found it particularly interesting when Cheryl referred to persons with no pigmentation as a "people of color", while maintaining here own claim to whiteness.
Many people classified as white react to the sun in a negative way as well so I doubt the sun tan lotion response would be adequate. In fact, according to the following link the only difference between many white people and albinos is their vision(and sometimes eye color).
http://www.albinism.org/publications/what_is_albinism.html
Perhaps the origins of the physical traits associated with many people classified as white is a result of a mistreatment in early human society toward albino people in the form of restricting albinos to only mate with other albinos. Quite ironic if true. This would explain why the dysfunctional skin reactions of many white people to the sun does not make since on a planet powered by the sun. The current day appearance of a whole people of semi-albinos isn't necessarily a natural course of events. |
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