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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: ok Reply with quote

smallz wrote:
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Now how WILL people counter-racism... by using their imagination, (What if white people decide to kill all of the non-white people?) and coming up with a logical process of dealing with it.

You're welcome


Yes, BUT, your theory must be based on something. I attempt to base my theory on that which is (truth).

I don't base my theory on other theory. I wouldn't reccomend starting a project with a game-plan like that.

How could you come up with a logical process for doing something if your not certain of what your supposed to be doing?

counter-racist logic is cemented around the fact that:

WHITE SUPREMACY EXISTS.

Every piece of counter-racist code should be aligned with that, not a "what -if" question.

smallz

Smallz,

What do you mean Karim's theory is based on a theory?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: ok Reply with quote

Virtual_GOD wrote:
smallz wrote:
Quote:
Now how WILL people counter-racism... by using their imagination, (What if white people decide to kill all of the non-white people?) and coming up with a logical process of dealing with it.

You're welcome


Yes, BUT, your theory must be based on something. I attempt to base my theory on that which is (truth).

I don't base my theory on other theory. I wouldn't reccomend starting a project with a game-plan like that.

How could you come up with a logical process for doing something if your not certain of what your supposed to be doing?

counter-racist logic is cemented around the fact that:

WHITE SUPREMACY EXISTS.

Every piece of counter-racist code should be aligned with that, not a "what -if" question.

smallz

Smallz,

What do you mean Karim's theory is based on a theory?


Good question.

Karim stated:

It appears as though karim is saying that:

1.
Quote:
Now how will people counter-racsim... by using their imagination and coming up with a logical process of dealing with it.


And,

It also appears as though he is giving an example of this by asking:

2.
Quote:
"(What if white people decide to kill all of the non-white people?)"


[Karim, please correct me if this misrepresents what you are attempting to convey.]

Based on what Karim stated above, it appears to me to be a theory as to HOW to counter-racsim/white supremacy.

My point is that,

When I attempt to come up with though/speech/action to counter-racism/white supremacy I base that activity on the fact that racism/white supremacy (The Racial subjugation of ALL non white people by the White Supremacists in the known universe) exists.

As opposed to coming up with though/speech/action to counter-racism/white supremacy based on:

Quote:
"(What if white people decide to kill all of the non-white people?"


After reading that, the first question I asked myself was:

Logically speaking, can there be a system of mistreatment based on COLOR, without any COLORED people?

I hope I've answered your question adequately.

If not, I will try again.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now I am really confused (a task that is not difficult to accomplish).

What is the premise?

What is the problem?

What is the suggested solution to the problem?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Virtual_GOD wrote:
Now I am really confused (a task that is not difficult to accomplish).

What is the premise?
Non-whites can't Idenify who is white or who is non-white... if the situation such as WAR arise agianst people who is classified as white

Or

Re-read opening statement

Virtual_God wrote:
What is the problem?
Non-whites can't Idenify who is white or who is non-white... if the situation such as WAR arise agianst people who is classified as white.

Virtual_God wrote:
What is the suggested solution to the problem?
The title was "Solution revisal" I.E. Work in progress...

But all I gather from diaolgue with this site and actual encounters, so far, is ASK A WHITE GUY/WOMEN

"Re-read opening statement"
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: ok Reply with quote

smallz wrote:
Yes, BUT, your theory must be based on something. I attempt to base my theory on that which is (truth).
What is Truth?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: ok Reply with quote

smallz wrote:
Virtual_GOD wrote:
smallz wrote:
Quote:
Now how WILL people counter-racism... by using their imagination, (What if white people decide to kill all of the non-white people?) and coming up with a logical process of dealing with it.

You're welcome


Yes, BUT, your theory must be based on something. I attempt to base my theory on that which is (truth).

I don't base my theory on other theory. I wouldn't reccomend starting a project with a game-plan like that.

How could you come up with a logical process for doing something if your not certain of what your supposed to be doing?

counter-racist logic is cemented around the fact that:

WHITE SUPREMACY EXISTS.

Every piece of counter-racist code should be aligned with that, not a "what -if" question.

smallz

Smallz,

What do you mean Karim's theory is based on a theory?


Good question.

Karim stated:

It appears as though karim is saying that:

1.
Quote:
Now how will people counter-racsim... by using their imagination and coming up with a logical process of dealing with it.


And,

It also appears as though he is giving an example of this by asking:

2.
Quote:
"(What if white people decide to kill all of the non-white people?)"


[Karim, please correct me if this misrepresents what you are attempting to convey.]

Based on what Karim stated above, it appears to me to be a theory as to HOW to counter-racsim/white supremacy.

My point is that,

When I attempt to come up with though/speech/action to counter-racism/white supremacy I base that activity on the fact that racism/white supremacy (The Racial subjugation of ALL non white people by the White Supremacists in the known universe) exists.

As opposed to coming up with though/speech/action to counter-racism/white supremacy based on:

Quote:
"(What if white people decide to kill all of the non-white people?"


After reading that, the first question I asked myself was:

Logically speaking, can there be a system of mistreatment based on COLOR, without any COLORED people?

I hope I've answered your question adequately.

If not, I will try again.
Am I missing something... becasue I never mention the idea of racism not existing...

I'm responding as to why imagination IS vital for countering racism...

As for the question (what if white people decided to kill all of the non-white people?) it was used as an EXAMPLE to convey my message.

Look... I'm trying to counter - racism not some nigger...

I believe the opening question was If non-white were to decide to kill all of the people classified as white, how will it even be possible?

Let's stay fokus'ed

(((Shaking my head)))
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

smallz wrote:
Good luck.

smallz
(((Shaking my head)))

To whom it may concern: Any questions, or suggestions?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Karim wrote:
smallz wrote:
Good luck.

smallz
(((Shaking my head)))

Any questions, or suggestions?

I have a suggestion...replace white supremacy (racism) with justice.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Virtual_GOD wrote:
Karim wrote:
smallz wrote:
Good luck.

smallz
(((Shaking my head)))

Any questions, or suggestions?

I have a suggestion...replace white supremacy (racism) with justice.
Thank you
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karim,

Do you have a copy of the codebook authored by Neely Fuller Jr.?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Virtual_GOD wrote:
Karim,

Do you have a copy of the codebook authored by Neely Fuller Jr.?
Why?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Karim wrote:
Virtual_GOD wrote:
Karim,

Do you have a copy of the codebook authored by Neely Fuller Jr.?
Why?

It may be necessary, in order to understand counter-racist codification, to read the codebook authored by Neely Fuller Jr. Two people cannot intelligibly discuss and/or refine a concept that someone introduced in a book without both people reading the book. I could be incorrect about that.

My first question to you is do you have a copy of the codebook authored by Neely Fuller Jr.?

My next question to you is have you read the codebook authored by Neely Fuller Jr. completely?

Please answer the first question then answer the second question.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:22 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Virtual_GOD wrote:
Karim wrote:
Virtual_GOD wrote:
Karim,

Do you have a copy of the codebook authored by Neely Fuller Jr.?
Why?

It may be necessary, in order to understand counter-racist codification, to read the codebook authored by Neely Fuller Jr. Two people cannot intelligibly discuss and/or refine a concept that someone introduced in a book without both people reading the book. I could be incorrect about that.

My first question to you is have you read the codebook authored by Neely Fuller Jr.?

My next question to you is have you read the codebook authored by Neely Fuller Jr. completely?

Please answer the first question then answer the second question.
1. Yes

2. No

3. I'm not discussing a book... I'm discussing racism/white supremacy

(((Shaking my head)))

I'll know what a prison is and is trying methods of getting out, I am the CODEBOOK.

(((Head is about to fall off)))

To whites or non-whites:Is this conversation FOCUSED or are we talking about some book... which I'm not qualified to make anayzles without reading it... COMPLETELY?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the questions in your post are incorrect. I'll repost them for you here:

My first question to you is do you have a copy of the codebook authored by Neely Fuller Jr.?

My next question to you is have you read the codebook authored by Neely Fuller Jr. completely?

Counter-Racist Codification is a concept...a concept that was introduced in logical mechanical form in the United-Independent Compensatory Code/System/Concept, which is a book. It may benefit me if you would read the entire codebook authored by Neely Fuller Jr. to get an idea of all of the parameters of the concept.

I think this is essential in an effort to discuss this concept intelligibly. Please let me know when you have done this and we can resume the refinement of your suggestion.
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