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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 1:19 pm    Post subject: Solidifying Suspicion Reply with quote

Observed Phenomenon:

A person that says they are a white person will not answer if asked if another person is a white person.

Hypothesis:

According to THE LOGIC the person who says they are a white person and are refusing to answer the question, when asked, if someone else is a white person is practicing a characteristic of a racist white supremacist.

Racists (white supremacists) use deceit and direct violence to confuse their victims, which are non-white people. I say direct violence because deceit itself is a form of violence. When you are deceiving someone, unjustly, to his or her detriment you are committing violence against that person.

The mechanics of the deceit used by a white supremacist racist is mainly carried out by a white person CHOOSING to lie to non-white people and/or withholding constructive information from non-white people.

Experiment:

Questions to ask are as follows:

Are you a white person?

Is (someone else that you can point to preferably) a white person?

What is the purpose for a white person to classify someone as white or non-white under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism)?

...added the following question 12-16-2003...

Do you know a white person when you see one?

Results:

The results of this experiment are conclusive. Some of the white people that were asked the questions listed in the experiment that did not answer the second question were even called white supremacists (racists) by some of the white people present.

THE LOGIC states that any white person that is able to practice white supremacy (racism) is a racist suspect. Just as any male that is able to rape a female, once a female has been raped, is a rapist suspect.

THE LOGIC also states that non-white people do not have the criteria for determining which white person is a white supremacist (racist). If non-white people had the criteria for determining which white person is a white supremacist (racist), non-white people could end this unjust SYSTEM overnight.

The logical calculation is that any white person that is able to practice white supremacy (racism) is a racist suspect. If any non-white person has any doubt that this is an accurate statement continue to use this scientific experiment to do work that will lead to the revelation of truth.

There is also a thread you may want to take a look at between myself and poster here that goes by the name of Mikaveli. It can be found under the Using Words Correctly forum in the Indicators or Qualifications thread. Mikaveli states that he is a white person.

This thread is an example of a step-by-step conversation between a white person and a person classified as a non-white person by white people as both discuss "racist suspect".

Scientific Theory:

Any white person that has the ability to practice white supremacy (racism) is a racist suspect.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The following dialouge between myself and a White female is an example of the mechanics of "solidifying suspicion". The best format for running this experiment is to be in a room with White people and non white people; FACE TO FACE! As soon as the issue of race comes up (and it will) Use S.O.C and ask the suspect the "critical question"; "ARE YOU A WHITE PERSON?"


Make sure you get a "yes" or "no" answer---do not accept a "nigger product" such as: "MY PARENTS ARE FROM THE GERMANIC TRIBE"..."IM PART NATIVE AMERICAN"..."IM 1/3 SCOTCH IRISH ON MY DADS SIDE TWICE REMOVED FROM MY 2ND COUSINS JOOWISH GRANDMOTHER WHO CAME HERE DURING THE POTATO FAMINE FLEEING THE OPPRESSION OF CHARLES THE 5TH DURING THE WAR OF THE ROSES"


or, check out this classic "nigger product":



"IM A NON-WHITE-WHITE-PERSON"


Im not kiddin. A White person actually tried to use that one on me...with a straight face.


IT is critical that you get a "yes" or "no" answer to the "critical question"; if you fail to do this all your future data will be corrupted (niggerized) and will not reveal truth. Thats why its called "THE CRITICAL QUESTION".





If you get a "yes" to the critical question you are now ready for phase two.


Look around the room and point to another person and ask your suspect: "IS SHE/HE A WHITE PERSON?"
(it is best if the person you are pointing at is aware they are the subject of the query)



Keep doing this until the suspect refuses to provide an answer. Depending on the sophistication of the White person, this may be a very short experiment (or they may refuse to participate altogether)


A key component of the practice of racism White supremacy is identifying who is a White person and who is a non white person. White people know this and they "do the math" quickly.


They understand that you are asking them which people in the room are "qualified" to be mistreated on the basis of color by White people.

And they already told you they are a White person.



Now how is a suspect going to react to this peice of counter racism code?



WORDS...LOTS OF WORDS! They are going to throw buckets of words at you in an attempt to confuse you and get you off track.


Stay focused and just run the experiment. You can do it.


The following dialouge is an example of the experiment(via a posting board) between myself and a White female who attempts to practice racism White supremacy by failing to reveal truth regarding HER classification of another person as White or non white. The text has been heavily edited to remove the "buckets" of words she attempted to throw at me for purposes of deception.

This conversation took about 6 days. But if you do this experiment in a room full of people it goes very quick.










Josh:

Having "money" is not the same as being a White person in a system of racism White supremacy. "Saddam" had "money" (and guess who's picture was on it?) There is something about being a White person that is more valuable than "money". I suspect this is why the White grandparents get nervous when their daughter introduces you to them.






Cloudsong:

But not ALL white grandparents, Josh. My daughter's dating an Hispanic guy whom my mom practically fainted from being charmed by. Stop putting us all in one WS/R box. There are many grandparents who would welcome a non-white grandson-in-law, including me one day. cloudsong



Josh:

Is your daughters "boyfriend" a White person? and if not, how do you know?





cloudsong:

Her boyfriend is not a "white person" in the sense that when his family is over for dinner, sometimes I get the sense his mom is a little sad that my daughter doesn't fit better into their culture, I can't define the feeling or what SHE'S feeling. I think she'd rather have an Hispanic daughter-in-law.







RangerXL :

Cloudsong Is your daugther's boyfriend a White Person or a Non-White Person ?

How do you know ?




cloudsong:

Ranger XL, his family is from El Salvador. I really don't think in terms of "is he white or non-white", I just think in terms of how wonderful he is, how accomplished he is, how I hope he's happy in life, and how I wish he and my daughter the happiness that they deserve. If he's classified as "non-white" by other white people, it will make his life harder. Right now he's on a roll and doing a million things and I hope it's always the case.




Josh:


Cloudsong, I asked you! A WHITE PERSON, if your daughters boyfriend Is a White person and if not, how you know he is NOT a White person. Now although you answer the question with a "NO", you base your answer on your observations of other non white people.

Do you all see how slick Cloudsong is?

You say you are a White person You are fully qualified to state why another person is or is not a White person. You don't hafta gauge the reaction of ANY OTHER PEOPLE. especially OTHER NIGGERS!

I will ask you again: Is your daughters "boyfriend" a White person? and if not, how do you know? don't bring any non white people in to help you answer this question. Answer the question.


cloudsong:

Josh, I don't classify people. I think that white people who DO classify people would classify him as non-white, which will make his life harder.



Josh:

Oh no ya don't...You ain't backin out of this one. You classify yourself as a White person. That makes you a White person who classifies people.


1. You have classified yourself as a White person.

And,


2. You have ackowledged the existence of the system of racism White supremacy.

and,

3. You have acknowledged that your daughters boyfriend is not a White person. Maybe you can find some other non white people to decieve.




cloudsong:

Are you on crack? (my daughter's phrase) You're completely missing my point. I'm simply saying that yes, I see that he's probably classified as non-white, but that I don't CARE whether he's white or non-white. If my daughter met you and wanted to marry you, or Joe Madison's son, or Jorge Viegas, GREAT. I want her to marry whoever she damn well pleases. And yes, many white people DO feel this way. When I was dating the one black boyfriend whom I dated seriously, I had an uncle begging me to marry him. He thought it would be wonderful. And that uncle is WHITE. So, I see classifications yes, but I don't care about them. Cloudsong



cloudsong:

ps. what I'm fighting against is that there are white people who DO care about the classifications.




Josh:

Cloudsong, : do you classify your daughters boyfriend as a non white person? Yes or No



cloudsong:


The answer to your question is, I can only say that I see my daughter's boyfriend as Hispanic. I know I'm not answering correctly, and you're not going to believe me, but I'm going to be honest anyway - I'd never thought in terms of "white" or "non-white" with him till you asked.


Josh:

This is very interesting folks. Here we have a person who says she is a White person. But when I ask her if another person is a White person she won't answer with a "NO". Now take a minute and think about why she is reluctant to do this. She understands what a White person is; why?---because she says she is one.

All I need to know is if he is a White person like YOU?


Cloudsongs behavior proves she knows more about the system of racism White supremacy than she is telling us. The fact that she refuses to answer a simple question of mine is the best evidence of her true nature. There is a reason she won't answer my question. That reason is the critical peice of information about the system of racism White supremacy that she will not reveal to us.

Cloudsong is the future of racism White supremacy. Soon all White people will have her ability; A nice giftrapped package, a bow on top...a hand written card...but when you open it up its just the same old nigger product.





cloudsong:


Josh, you have two choices when I answer one of your questions: you can either take it as information I'm giving you, or you can say I'm lying. You asked if I thought of my daughter's boyfriend as white or non-white. I told you the truth, that I didn't think that way about him till you asked - that I simply thought of him as Hispanic. That is really valuable info -- it should go into your computer "white woman didn't classify Hispanic guy as white or non-white".




Josh:


That is really valuable info -- it should go into your computer "white woman didn't classify Hispanic guy as white or non-white".--Cloudsong

In front of other non white people. And there is a reason why she will not do this. That REASON is part of the racist code cloudsong is withholding from us. Don't be fooled , follow the logic. Cloudsong says she is a White person That means she knows what a White person is. Now that Im asking her if another person is a White person; she will neither confirm or deny the query.

There is a motive driving her posture . And she knows what it is. She could tell us But she refuses. Think about why she is doing this.


Josh:


All the stalling and evasion cloudsong did on this thread was for the purpose of avoiding what this White person on this link did. Check out "Mikaveli" as he "hangs" himself.


http://www.counter-racism.com/cgi-bin/discussion/viewtopic.php?p=2408#2408
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh,

I'm just about finish testing on thisproject and will record my Results, Supporting Evidence, and Scientific Theory on it.

Do you mind if I place your conversation on the Articles/Conversations with People section of this website?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go right ahead sir. Also, here is the link to the entire thread regarding this conversation if anybody is interested.


http://www.thecode.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000017


Also,

The format of:

Observed phenomenon

Hypothesis

Experiment



Is very useful for creating counter racism code.


I think NASA should use it to fix the space shuttle so it don't blow up again.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edward Williams: Are you a white person?
White Person: Yes.
Edward Williams: Is that person (pointing to another person) a white person?
White Person: You will have to ask them.
Edward Williams: Do you know a white person when you see one?
White Person: Yes.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edward Williams: Are you a white person?
Person: (no response).
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Edward Williams: Are you a white person?
White Person: I am jewish.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edward Williams: Are you a white person?
White Person: As white as they come.
Edward Williams: Is that person (pointing to another person) a white person?
White Person: (no response).
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Edward Williams: Are you a white person?
Person: I am white skinned.
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Edward Williams: Are you a white person?
White Person: Yes.
Edward Williams: Is that person (pointing to another person) a white person?
White Person: Sure, why not?
Edward Williams: What is the purpose for a white person to classify someone as white or non-white under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism)?
White Person: (no response).
Edward Williams: Do you know a white person when you see one?
White Person: (no response).
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edward Williams: Are you a white person?
Person: My mother is white.
Edward Williams: Is that person (pointing to another person) a white person?
Person: They look white to me.
Edward Williams: What is the purpose for a white person to classify someone as white or non-white under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism)?
Person: (no response).
Edward Williams: Do you know a white person when you see one?
Person: Yes, I believe so.
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Edward Williams: Are you a white person?
Person: My skin is white.
Edward Williams: Is that person (pointing to another person) a white person?
Person: I don't know.
Edward Williams: What is the purpose for a white person to classify someone as white or non-white under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism)?
Person: I don't know.
Edward Williams: Do you know a white person when you see one?
Person: Yes.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edward Williams: Are you a white person?
Person: I'm Hispanic.
Edward Williams: Is that person (pointing to another person) a white person?
Person: Yes.
Edward Williams: What is the purpose for a white person to classify someone as white or non-white under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism)?
Person: What is white supremacy racism?
Edward Williams: Do you know a white person when you see one?
Person: (no response).
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Edward Williams: Are you a white person?
Person: I'm German.
Edward Williams: Is that person (pointing to another person) a white person?
Person: I don't know, I think so.
Edward Williams: What is the purpose for a white person to classify someone as white or non-white under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism)?
Person: Oh I don't know.
Edward Williams: Do you know a white person when you see one?
Person: Yes, I do.
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