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cloudsong



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

V-God, I mean it is a false statement because of the babies issue, which Helix brought up.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

cloudsong wrote:
V-God, I mean it is a false statement because of the babies issue, which Helix brought up.

cloudsong

Is it true or is it false? Which is it?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the broadest definition of whites supremacist/racist, every white person is one except babies and the mentally infirm.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

cloudsong wrote:
In the broadest definition of whites supremacist/racist, every white person is one except babies and the mentally infirm.

cloudsong

cloudsong,

Do all white people practice white supremacy (racism)?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

V-God, no one in this world escapes the conditioning of white supremacy.

By the word "practice" I am, perhaps wrongly, assuming you mean actively do white supremacist acts. If that is how you mean that word, then my answer is no, not every white person practices white supremacy. But every white person is a white supremacist in a broad definition.

Do you know what I mean?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your use of the word "practice" includes the passive sense, letting white supremacist things happen in the world without working against them -- then yes, every white person practices white supremacy.

(Except babies and the mentally infirm)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest all non-white people read this thread. It shows the utility of a racist suspect and why one of the things a white person has to do if they do not want to practice white supremacy (racism) is to not lie to a non-white person.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

V-God, I haven't lied to you.

Why do you think I know all these definitions -- do you think I jumped out of my mother's womb shouting, "white supremacy!"

I don't know these definitions, I never thought of that term till I went on the Code site.

Good grief, I'm trying to figure out how I define these things.

One thing I WON'T do is define everything the way you do and think the way you do -- not that I don't respect you, but because I HAVE MY OWN BRAIN AND I THINK FOR MYSELF.

Ain't you or NOBODY gonna tell me what I think.

If you don't want a white person here who thinks for herself and doesn't agree with everything, then goodbye.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

cloudsong wrote:
V-God, I haven't lied to you.

Why do you think I know all these definitions -- do you think I jumped out of my mother's womb shouting, "white supremacy!"

I don't know these definitions, I never thought of that term till I went on the Code site.

Good grief, I'm trying to figure out how I define these things.

One thing I WON'T do is define everything the way you do and think the way you do -- not that I don't respect you, but because I HAVE MY OWN BRAIN AND I THINK FOR MYSELF.

Ain't you or NOBODY gonna tell me what I think.

If you don't want a white person here who thinks for herself and doesn't agree with everything, then goodbye.

cloudsong

cloudsong, you don't have to threaten to leave this project or any other, just leave. Counter-Racism is guerilla warfare...solo work, lonely, non-gratifying, no recognition, white people are not gonna be around you if you are doing it correctly, non-white people always suspect of you...uncomforting...makes you throw up every morning...

This ain't no popularity contest and I ain't your friend...

...well...SEE YA!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't threatening to leave, I was in a roundabout way asking if it's okay if I think for myself.

I was saying that if you want me to agree with all your exact definitions, I'd leave.

I'm sorry this work is ungratifying. And I don't like the idea you have to throw up every morning.

It's just painful that we spend so much time communicating and I can never be your friend. But anyway...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

cloudsong wrote:
I wasn't threatening to leave, I was in a roundabout way asking if it's okay if I think for myself.

I was saying that if you want me to agree with all your exact definitions, I'd leave.

I'm sorry this work is ungratifying. And I don't like the idea you have to throw up every morning.

It's just painful that we spend so much time communicating and I can never be your friend. But anyway...

cloudsong


cloudsond if your REALLY intrested in RWSWJ, I suggest simply go tell the white people what we need to succeed.

It aint gonna do you no good to sit around and talk to 'slaves', to try and figure out how to end 'slavery'.

Like I said, if your really serious you'll go find Master and talk to him.

enough already.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

smallz wrote:
cloudsong wrote:
I wasn't threatening to leave, I was in a roundabout way asking if it's okay if I think for myself.

I was saying that if you want me to agree with all your exact definitions, I'd leave.

I'm sorry this work is ungratifying. And I don't like the idea you have to throw up every morning.

It's just painful that we spend so much time communicating and I can never be your friend. But anyway...

cloudsong


cloudsond if your REALLY intrested in RWSWJ, I suggest simply go tell the white people what we need to succeed.

It aint gonna do you no good to sit around and talk to 'slaves', to try and figure out how to end 'slavery'.

Like I said, if your really serious you'll go find Master and talk to him.

enough already.

smallz
Well said...

It come down to three possible things to do with NON-WHITES

1) Help eM'

2) Kill eM'

3) Or DO NOTHING
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HighHouse



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're right.

Especially:

-This isn't a popularity contest; you don't have to make friends with everyone.

-It doesn't do any good to talk to the slaves when the master is the problem.

But you guys gotta realize that cloudsong is a 50 year old mom who grew up in the hippie 60's and thinks everything can be solved with love and understanding and flowers. That's all she knows how to do.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

HighHouse wrote:
They're right.

Especially:

-This isn't a popularity contest; you don't have to make friends with everyone.

-It doesn't do any good to talk to the slaves when the master is the problem.

But you guys gotta realize that cloudsong is a 50 year old mom who grew up in the hippie 60's and thinks everything can be solved with love and understanding and flowers. That's all she knows how to do.


-Highhouse


Forget about cloudsong, what are YOU trying to do daniel?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do how? By being on this message board?
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