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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:37 pm    Post subject: How do you handle this? Reply with quote

I am a black man who works for a Biotech Pharmaceutical company for the last 5 1/2 years. The first three years, I was in the top 10 in sales for the company and went to 2 straight President Club awards/ 3 straight #1 sales awards for my region.
Over the last 2 years our product for HIV has declined tremendously due to newer products and better efficacy. My sales performance has declined but no where near the company average of decline. Recently, my white female manger found out that there is an account that was not in my territory that was filling all of the presciptions from my accounts that was in another white girls territory - who has never made quota in 6 years.
My manager told me that there was nothing she could do to change it but for 2004 they will give me a quota for the account in put it into my territory. So in other words no credit for bringing the account to 150% or quota for 2003 but we will establish a new quota for 2004.
Question: Do I fight this issue with Human Resources which could bring a lot of backlash or do a say screw it and find a new company to work for ?
Oh by the way, I have been passed over 4 times for promotion to inferior white candidates and the justification was given to me "off the record" is that I am a black man who is outspoken but a great sales rep. Your thoughts????
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Question: Do I fight this issue with Human Resources which could bring a lot of backlash or do a say screw it and find a new company to work for ?
Oh by the way, I have been passed over 4 times for promotion to inferior white candidates and the justification was given to me "off the record" is that I am a black man who is outspoken but a great sales rep. Your thoughts????


To answer you 1st question my answer is : I don't know.

That's something your gonna hafta decide.

I would first determine what is my "issue" to fight exactly?

After that I would gather evidence to support the violation of the 5th and 14th amendments of the US constitution in regaurd to how I was treated in a given "issue".

I would do this because I've noticed that when Racsim/White Supremacy is practiced in the workplace it usually has to come by way of violating one or both of those 2 amendments.

This is importanat to note, because I don't belive anyone has ever been prosecuted and convicted for "Practicing Racism".
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

V_God why did you delete the posts I had in this topic? I was discussing calmly and helpfully like everyone else.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

HighHouse wrote:
V_God why did you delete the posts I had in this topic? I was discussing calmly and helpfully like everyone else.

HighHouse,

I didn't delete the post. I have only deleted threads that havemultiple posts in them. I explained that when we moved to the new servers and the database was copied, there was a loss of posts and people that had previously registered.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Kill them all.
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Yo Cone;

You can't just come here and mouth off anymore.

This is a work/study forum.

If you're not careful you're gonna get pinched.

Please read the announcement

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

HighHouse wrote:
You seem to mouth off quite a bit Josh.

Please read the announcement.

You may just get pinched.

THE BEST OF JOHN WAYNE
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Cone_Head#1 wrote:
Kill them all.

THE BEST OF JOHN WAYNE
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

THE BEST OF BLACK MEDIA

John Wayne kicks ass.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

HighHouse wrote:
John Wayne kicks ass.

Kicks who ass?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. If you don't know what the phrase "kicks ass" means, then you are dumber than a rock.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here Karim, I'll save you time and respond for you.


Dumber than what rock!?!??
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please, no personal attacks. This is one way white people get non-white people to perpetuate childlike behavior. Either help the person that needs help the most or don't say anything, this is a suggestion. I know it's hard for white people to not practice white supremacy (racism) but if you're interested in producing a SYSTEM that guarantees no person is mistreated and guarantees the person that needs help the most gets the most help, white people will have to resist the urge to say and do things that are productive only to the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

HighHouse wrote:
Wow. If you don't know what the phrase "kicks ass" means, then you are dumber than a rock.

Let's keep this as tacky as possible PLEASE!

Highhouse,

Please define JUSTICE... for this person who is "dumber than a rock."
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Virtual_GOD wrote:
Please, no personal attacks. This is one way white people get non-white people to perpetuate childlike behavior. Either help the person that needs help the most or don't say anything, this is a suggestion. I know it's hard for white people to not practice white supremacy (racism) but if you're interested in producing a SYSTEM that guarantees no person is mistreated and guarantees the person that needs help the most gets the most help, white people will have to resist the urge to say and do things that are productive only to the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism).


So V_God, Karim can mock and belittle me all he wants, but I can't retaliate or say anything back?
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