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Josh



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why would I run an experiment that I don't believe will yield valid results? That is, that won't test the hypothesis?

If this is going to be a scientific forum producing reliable results that are the basis for knowledge on how to better counter racism, you/we can't skip over the steps in following the logic. To do otherwise is to fool yourself and niggers can't stop being niggers if we continue to engage in self-deception.
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I don't know why you would run an experiment that you don't believe will yield valid results?


But you can alway produce and run your own experiment.



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:14 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Dark Switch wrote:
Josh wrote:
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Was that a conscious decision to bolden my final sentence?



Yes.

You can clear up any confusion by running the experiment.

One purpose for the experiment is to demonstrate how a White person who tries to decieve you by telling you they are a non white person will be betrayed by their own functioning.

In my example the suspect could not bring himself to state his "girlfriend" is non white even though she says she is non white.

Is that something a non white person does?

Isn't the hypothesis to that result something like...this experiment shows how a racial suspect functions differently to a non-white person?

I have no doubt "This experiment is designed to help a VOR counter a person who provides false and/or misleading information in response to the "critical question" (are you a White person?)."
But the example doesn't "use the other 2 compensatory definitions of [White person]:" , perhaps that part should go in the experiment section.

What seems clearer for me now, is that white people decide in their FUNCTIONING what is a white person. But then, we knew this already. So why are we asking them?

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Look at it this way:

Im sittin in the prison lunch room and this guy whom I always thought was a guard walks up and tells me he's a prisoner:

"Ive always felt like a prisoner"

"I really identify with prisoners"

"I listen to prisoner music..."

When I ask the inmate he's fucking if she is a prisoner, she says YES.

But when I ask him if the inmate he is fucking is a prisoner he says "I don't know"



Josh

Thank you.


DarkSwitch, a hypothesis is not an illustration. Sometimes, people need someone to illustrate something so that they understand something that has already been proved as likely to be true.

But, that is called an illustration; not an hypothesis.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

HelixHair wrote:
Dark Switch wrote:
Josh wrote:
Quote:
Was that a conscious decision to bolden my final sentence?



Yes.

You can clear up any confusion by running the experiment.

One purpose for the experiment is to demonstrate how a White person who tries to decieve you by telling you they are a non white person will be betrayed by their own functioning.

In my example the suspect could not bring himself to state his "girlfriend" is non white even though she says she is non white.

Is that something a non white person does?

Isn't the hypothesis to that result something like...this experiment shows how a racial suspect functions differently to a non-white person?

I have no doubt "This experiment is designed to help a VOR counter a person who provides false and/or misleading information in response to the "critical question" (are you a White person?)."
But the example doesn't "use the other 2 compensatory definitions of [White person]:" , perhaps that part should go in the experiment section.

What seems clearer for me now, is that white people decide in their FUNCTIONING what is a white person. But then, we knew this already. So why are we asking them?

Quote:
Look at it this way:

Im sittin in the prison lunch room and this guy whom I always thought was a guard walks up and tells me he's a prisoner:

"Ive always felt like a prisoner"

"I really identify with prisoners"

"I listen to prisoner music..."

When I ask the inmate he's fucking if she is a prisoner, she says YES.

But when I ask him if the inmate he is fucking is a prisoner he says "I don't know"



Josh

Thank you.


DarkSwitch, a hypothesis is not an illustration. Sometimes, people need someone to illustrate something so that they understand something that has already been proved as likely to be true.

But, that is called an illustration; not an experiment.

You be correct, HelixHair.

Also, if the compensatory definition of a white person is all three of the following:

1. Classifies themselves as White.

2. Classified as White by other people who classify themselves as White.

3. FUNCTIONS as a White person in one or all of the nine areas of people activity,

is the racist suspect in this report a white person or not, if he refuses provide that admission verbally?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:25 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Dark Switch wrote:
HelixHair wrote:
Dark Switch wrote:
Josh wrote:
Quote:
Was that a conscious decision to bolden my final sentence?



Yes.

You can clear up any confusion by running the experiment.

One purpose for the experiment is to demonstrate how a White person who tries to decieve you by telling you they are a non white person will be betrayed by their own functioning.

In my example the suspect could not bring himself to state his "girlfriend" is non white even though she says she is non white.

Is that something a non white person does?

Isn't the hypothesis to that result something like...this experiment shows how a racial suspect functions differently to a non-white person?

I have no doubt "This experiment is designed to help a VOR counter a person who provides false and/or misleading information in response to the "critical question" (are you a White person?)."
But the example doesn't "use the other 2 compensatory definitions of [White person]:" , perhaps that part should go in the experiment section.

What seems clearer for me now, is that white people decide in their FUNCTIONING what is a white person. But then, we knew this already. So why are we asking them?

Quote:
Look at it this way:

Im sittin in the prison lunch room and this guy whom I always thought was a guard walks up and tells me he's a prisoner:

"Ive always felt like a prisoner"

"I really identify with prisoners"

"I listen to prisoner music..."

When I ask the inmate he's fucking if she is a prisoner, she says YES.

But when I ask him if the inmate he is fucking is a prisoner he says "I don't know"



Josh

Thank you.


DarkSwitch, a hypothesis is not an illustration. Sometimes, people need someone to illustrate something so that they understand something that has already been proved as likely to be true.

But, that is called an illustration; not an experiment.

You be correct, HelixHair.

Also, if the compensatory definition of a white person is all three of the following:

1. Classifies themselves as White.

2. Classified as White by other people who classify themselves as White.

3. FUNCTIONS as a White person in one or all of the nine areas of people activity,

is the racist suspect in this report a white person or not, if he refuses provide that admission verbally?



In a war, a sane soldier doesn't take any chances when confronted with another soldier who could be the enemy. Since, Racists (White Supremacists) lie, I watch what they do and act according to the evidence available. If I'm not sure, I operate from the assumption that the person is capable of perpetrating racists acts.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

HelixHair wrote:
In a war, a sane soldier doesn't take any chances when confronted with another soldier who could be the enemy. Since, Racists (White Supremacists) lie, I watch what they do and act according to the evidence available. If I'm not sure, I operate from the assumption that the person is capable of perpetrating racists acts.

That is an Overall Strategic Position.
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