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JohnnySmash



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:30 am    Post subject: Excerpt on front page uses distorted logic and half-truths Reply with quote

This is what it says on the front page:

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Logically speaking, as a result of the system of racism (white supremacy), there are three functional categories of people:

White people
Non-White people (black, brown, red, yellow, beige, etc.)
White Supremacists (Racists)

Not all white people are white supremacists (racists), but you do have to be white in order to be a white supremacist (racist). This is a choice that white people make, to participate in a system that was in place when they were born or to participate in replacing the system of white supremacy (racism) with a system of justice.

Justice meaning, guaranteeing that no person is mistreated and also guaranteeing that the person that needs help the most gets the most help.

Neely Fuller Jr.


Anybody actually READ this? It uses distorted logic and half-truths, which are brainwashing's best buddies.

EXAMPLE: "white supremacist (racist)"

This is distorted logic. Why? A white supremecist IS a racist, making the statement appear valid at a quick glance. HOWEVER, a racist is not necessarily a white Supremacist- it can be many more things. If the reader is pleased by this logic, however, they will not think to decipher it- they will accept it.

A half-truth is, as dictionary.com says "A statement, especially one intended to deceive, that omits some of the facts necessary for a full description or account."

EXAMPLE OF A HALF-TRUTH:

"Justice meaning, guaranteeing that no person is mistreated and also guaranteeing that the person that needs help the most gets the most help."

Although it does sound nice at first glance- there is a half-truth. Justice means that "guaranteeing that the person that needs the most help gets the most help"? Since when? This should be rephrased to "guaranteeing that the person that needs the most help gets the most help at the expense of others". Justice is more akin with fairness.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Excerpt on front page uses... Reply with quote

JohnnySmash wrote:
Anybody actually READ this?

Yes, I've read it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Excerpt on front page uses... Reply with quote

Virtual_GOD wrote:
JohnnySmash wrote:
Anybody actually READ this?

Yes, I've read it.


How about responding to my post instead of responding to one sentence that has little to do with the subject of my post.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Excerpt on front page uses... Reply with quote

JohnnySmash wrote:

How about responding to my post instead of responding to one sentence that has little to do with the subject of my post.


I apologize...I didn't realize you asked additional questions.

JohnnySmash wrote:
Justice means that "guaranteeing that the person that needs the most help gets the most help"?

Yes, that's part of it.

JohnnySmash wrote:
Since when?

Since I defined it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: Excerpt on front page uses... Reply with quote

Virtual_GOD wrote:
JohnnySmash wrote:

How about responding to my post instead of responding to one sentence that has little to do with the subject of my post.


I apologize...I didn't realize you asked additional questions.

JohnnySmash wrote:
Justice means that "guaranteeing that the person that needs the most help gets the most help"?

Yes, that's part of it.

JohnnySmash wrote:
Since when?

Since I defined it.


I didn't ask questions. Turns out you can respond to a post even if no questions were asked. If you can't figure it out, I'll explain it further.

You can't make up your own definition for Justice, and you took my quote out of context to make the illusion that I was asking a question. It was a RHETORICAL one. The full statement says:

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Justice means that "guaranteeing that the person that needs the most help gets the most help"? Since when? This should be rephrased to "guaranteeing that the person that needs the most help gets the most help at the expense of others". Justice is more akin with fairness.


You still haven't contested my points at all- just danced around them. How do you expect people to agree with you when you have nothing legitimate to say to anyone who is against you?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: Excerpt on front page uses... Reply with quote

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How do you expect people to agree with you when you have nothing legitimate to say to anyone who is against you?

I don't. Counter-racism is not a popularity contest.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Excerpt on front page uses... Reply with quote

Virtual_GOD wrote:
JohnnySmash wrote:
How do you expect people to agree with you when you have nothing legitimate to say to anyone who is against you?

I don't. Counter-racism is not a popularity contest.


I never said it is- I'm only asking how you expect your arguments to hold any water when you can't even defend them.

Speaking of defending, I assume you agree that the excerpt on the front page contains two aspects of brainwashing. If not, tell me why you disagree.

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