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Afrikan Identity and the process of codification

 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:50 am    Post subject: Afrikan Identity and the process of codification Reply with quote

Greetings and Awaaba,

In the process of codification, I have observed that much attention is given to arriving at definitions for words which differ in meaning from the textual definition and their common use. While I see the importance in ascribing meaning, I cannot help but think that it is short sighted to limit our linguistic frame of reference to English, when we know full well the role it played in colonizing African captives trafficked into slavery.

With this in mind, are there any members on here who have had their DNA tested to see where in Africa their ancestry is? If so, where did your ancestors hail from, and what role has this information played in your de-conditioning from white supremacy/de-colonization and ultimate re-Afrikanization? Does anyone here study any African languages? African traditional spirituality?

I am learning Akan-Twi and about Akom/Traditional Akan spirituality, and intend to also learn Yorùbá and about Ifá, but am still in the very beginning stages. Please share your insights, thoughts, and language study materials that you recommend. Last, if you are looking to practice your language with anyone, do reach out.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: Afrikan Identity and the process of codification Reply with quote

marooned.n.babylon wrote:
Greetings and Awaaba,

In the process of codification, I have observed that much attention is given to arriving at definitions for words which differ in meaning from the textual definition and their common use. While I see the importance in ascribing meaning, I cannot help but think that it is short sighted to limit our linguistic frame of reference to English, when we know full well the role it played in colonizing African captives trafficked into slavery.

With this in mind, are there any members on here who have had their DNA tested to see where in Africa their ancestry is?

Not me. But others should chime in with their response.

marooned.n.babylon wrote:
If so, where did your ancestors hail from, and what role has this information played in your de-conditioning from white supremacy/de-colonization and ultimate re-Afrikanization?

Doesn't apply.

marooned.n.babylon wrote:
Does anyone here study any African languages?

In order to do what?

marooned.n.babylon wrote:
African traditional spirituality?

I've studied many spiritual practices in my lifetime. Did not practice them, but studied the practice of them.

marooned.n.babylon wrote:
I am learning Akan-Twi and about Akom/Traditional Akan spirituality, and intend to also learn Yorùbá and about Ifá, but am still in the very beginning stages. Please share your insights, thoughts, and language study materials that you recommend. Last, if you are looking to practice your language with anyone, do reach out.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:11 am    Post subject: reply to Edward Williams Reply with quote

Thanks you for replying to the post.

To answer your question; the purpose of studying indigenous African languages are many, and specific to the person engaging in the study of one or multiple. But specifically relevant to Codification and the prescribed manner of behavior associated with it, I have come to the understanding that codification has one ultimate goal: to produce people who are capable of arriving at a solution to annihilate the context of white domination. Without this ultimate goal, the entire process of codification becomes unnecessary because we would reasonably then be living in a system of Justice.

I strongly suspect that the solution to annihilate the context of white domination and implement a system of Justice will come from an African language and that it could never be arrived at within the English language, or any european language. This is because the English language, and other european languages are tools of conditioning non-white peoples into subordination to the context of white domination. I suspect that an African language in particular would be the only linguistic frame of reference that could provide the necessary point of view to identify a solution to annihilate the context of white domination because these languages are spoken by the populations who are in the most need of Justice in this current system of white domination. I am not saying that African Americans are not in need of Justice. On the contrary, I think that the experience of African Americans is inextricably tied to the Justice that all African populations are in need of, particularly those Africans living on the continent. Last, I do not think the methods for arrive at system of Justice could even be articulated in English or European languages (barring poor and inadequate interpretations) because of how corruptive they are to the application of Justice as indicated in our current contexts.

So those are my thoughts on the matter. I would appreciate feedback.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:33 am    Post subject: Re: reply to Edward Williams Reply with quote

Hello marooned.n.babylon!

marooned.n.babylon wrote:
Thanks you for replying to the post.

To answer your question; the purpose of studying indigenous African languages are many, and specific to the person engaging in the study of one or multiple. But specifically relevant to Codification and the prescribed manner of behavior associated with it, I have come to the understanding that codification has one ultimate goal: to produce people who are capable of arriving at a solution to annihilate the context of white domination. Without this ultimate goal, the entire process of codification becomes unnecessary because we would reasonably then be living in a system of Justice.

Is there any other "context" outside of the SYSTEM of racism white supremacy?

marooned.n.babylon wrote:
I strongly suspect that the solution to annihilate the context of white domination and implement a system of Justice will come from an African language and that it could never be arrived at within the English language, or any european language.

Did the white people who practice racism white supremacy conquer the Africans who spoke those languages?

marooned.n.babylon wrote:
This is because the English language, and other european languages are tools of conditioning non-white peoples into subordination to the context of white domination. I suspect that an African language in particular would be the only linguistic frame of reference that could provide the necessary point of view to identify a solution to annihilate the context of white domination because these languages are spoken by the populations who are in the most need of Justice in this current system of white domination. I am not saying that African Americans are not in need of Justice. On the contrary, I think that the experience of African Americans is inextricably tied to the Justice that all African populations are in need of, particularly those Africans living on the continent. Last, I do not think the methods for arrive at system of Justice could even be articulated in English or European languages (barring poor and inadequate interpretations) because of how corruptive they are to the application of Justice as indicated in our current contexts.

So those are my thoughts on the matter. I would appreciate feedback.

According to compensatory counter-racist logic, a SYSTEM of justice has never existed. A SYSTEM where it is GUARANTEED that no person is mistreated and GUARANTEED that the person who needs help the most gets the most constructive help has never existed anywhere in the known universe. Since it has never existed how can anyone say what will or will not produce it?

The act of using counter-racist language, regardless of the words you speak, is a counter-war strategy. Doesn't matter what the words sound like as long as those words produce thought, speech and action that is focused on producing a SYSTEM of justice worldwide.

I'd like to ask that you post a Counter-Racism Science Experiment under the Counter-Racism Science Project forum to field test your theory. And run the experiment so that everyone can view the data.
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