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Azikiwei



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peace& One Love to Brothers: Dr. Fuller,Ed and Josh.On The Move!!!! 1st things 1st im a non-white person.Which means a Victim still being mistreated,used,and abused in a System Of White Supremacy daily. To make this short i wanna foward a message u can read that a white person wrote to me on Myspace and then i'll ask what and how do i counter it.

The Message is as follows:

"I don't call all black people "uncle tom's" only the one's crying oppression. The only reason you are oppressed is because you have not bothered to educate yourself and rise up. I do not only get into relationships with black men. Some of my very best friends are black women and the person in the world I love the most is bi-racial. In case you don't know what that means, it means she is half black. I guess you are one of those people who believe that is a SIN. Well as I tell my own white people as you say and by the way I do know I am white and I am not a hater of my own race. I talk to men of all creeds, colors, and religions. I would not have to be paid to be black. I think that black women are beautiful, but we both know no matter what I do I will always be white. I know I am white and I don't try to be anything else. I have never used the "N" word for any reason. Not in joking and never in anger. I don't like that word when black people use it even. I find it an offense word. I will tell you a little bit of history though so you know not to use what black people believe is a derrogatory word towards white people. When black people call a white person "cracker" all you are doing is empowering us. A "cracker" was the person who "cracked the whip", who beat the slaves. So when that terminology is used it is not offending us, but it should be offending you. I am not saying that you used that word, but I thought I would tell you that in case its something that you say. I think it is wonderful that you want to empower the black race. I think that it is wonderful that you are proud of your race. I think it is sickening that you have to demean my race to feel better about yours. You should be a proud black man without having to say that you are being held down by "the man" that is why you haven't done more with your life. You are spending so much time blaming other people for the mistakes and the bad judgements you have made that you can't see clearly that you are the one who has made them. People of all races have more freedom's and liberties in this country constitutionally than anywhere else. I have a theory though, if you don't like it here and you feel as though you are not treated equally and free here. Then move somewhere were you think it will be better for you. I am over half american indian. You can't say about how the blacks were treated, but read your history books. I am over half cherokee. Read about Andrew Jackson sending the cherokee on the trail of tears. The indians were here before anyone. So don't tell me that your people were brought, enslaved, and now treated horrible. At least nobody took all your land and put you on reservations. You didn't have to cross the country to find swamp to live on in a mobile home. Everyone in this country is an immigrant by all rights. Only the indians started out here. Read your history books and you will see that all people have been treated poorly in this countries history except for White-Anglo Saxons. I am not excusing slave, but I will tell you I was not a slave owner and you were not a slave. You need to move forward and fight for the rights you believe you deserve. Do that through education and people like me who believe that everyone is equal. Don't tell someone who is not racist that we are hurting your cause when if Martin Luther King, Jr was still alive they would march with him to help your cause. I don't speak to anyone who is racist and I am now done speaking with you, because whether or not you believe you can be you are racist. I guess it's true, the only way to end racism is to breed it out. I feel sorry for you because you are trapped in a box and it's not my race you hate. You hate your own. You hate that you were born black and that is sad. If you don't love yourself nobody can love you. I hope you've learned something from me. I am sorry if you didn't. I learned from you, I make it a point to learn something from everyone I come in contact with. If you do the same thing, you will find it hard to hate any group of people because there are good people everywhere."


Now at this point i wanna apologize that she wrote this long message.Now that u read this message,what can i do as a non-white person counter this? what should my codified response to where is she going with this? Also if you could,can u have Dr.Fuller read this and give me his reply? Thankx On the Move

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Azikiwei,

According to compensatory counter-racist logic, I would thank the person for the information. Why? The person never asked you a question.

The white people who practice racism (white supremacy) always get non-white people into long discussions that last for years in some instances, using a lot of words, that go nowhere.

One strategy you can use is Compensatory Conversation Control. You can write a counter-racism scientific experiment and post it in the Counter-racism Science Project forum, run the scientific experiment, and post your findings in the same thread as your counter-racism scientific experiment.

Now how can this help you? While running the counter-racism scientific experiment, not only are you learning what to say and/or do to work against the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) you are also learning what not to say and/or do to work against the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). The best part of this learning process is that while you're running the counter-racism scientific experiment you are actually working against the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) while you are running the counter-racism scientific experiment.

If you do not know how to write a counter-racism scientific experiment you can find help on how to write one, there is help available on the Counter-Racism Projects section of this website (there is a drop-down menu under the "Projects" button from the Projects page) and under the Counter-Racism Science Project forum under the Let's Begin...(Forum Guidelines and Standards) thread.

One thing that I'd like to emphasis is that the counter-racism code is not about Fuller. Fuller just emphasized this to me in a conversation on Tuesday of this week. This is something that disturbs Fuller...non-white people relating counter-racism to him. Countering racism (white supremacy), meaning replacing the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) with a SYSTEM of justice should be related to the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and each and every non-white person has to learn how to do that for themselves. How do you build a code? You can do so by trial and error but that takes an extremely long period of time. The best way I have found to build a code is to use a scientific method, which allows the person building the code to really put some thought and study into what they are trying to accomplish.

Avoid making statements. Non-white people really enjoy making statements. The white people who practice racism (white supremacy) use a lot of the statements that non-white people make against other non-white people so that the result is that the non-white people are in conflict with each other. Write your counter-racism scientific experiment, run your counter-racism scientific experiment, post the findings for your counter-racism scientific experiment. If someone has a question about the findings or data that you have posted they can ask a question. If someone has a problem with the findings or data you have posted they can run the counter-racism scientific experiment you have posted and produce their own findings and post them.

All of the time and energy used by the people who are involved in thinking about writing or running counter-racism scientific experiments, talking about writing or running counter-racism scientific experiments, running counter-racism scientific experiments, posting findings or data that is a result of running counter-racism scientific experiments, asking and answering questions that result from running counter-racism scientific experiments is all time and energy that used to replace the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) with a SYSTEM of justice. Just making statements that are probably unfounded and ungrounded in terms of being able to be used to replace the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) with a SYSTEM of justice, which is not only something non-white people enjoy doing, but are also something the white people who practice racism (white supremacy) also enjoy having non-white people do. Why? Because it goes nowhere in terms of working against the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy).

You are either working against the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) or you are helping to support the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). There is no in-between.

I apologize for the lengthy response.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is an example. I just received the following e-mail from KM, whomever that is:

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From: k m <sugarcube14@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:33 AM
To: Webmaster@counter-racism.com
Subject: SPAM-LOW: hello there


I'm a White Nationalist and I came across your station and I was looking for a phone number that I could call to be on air to discuss and question a few things.

In words on the stations homepage, you only had ONE race in parentheses following the word “racism” and that was, of course, White. You do not critique or mention the black supremacists or brown supremacists from what I hear and from what I see listed as what your show entails. You should also broaden the topics relating to the race “issue” across the spectrum including human nature and genetics. Real questionable topics instead of “the White man did this” or “the Whites this that this that blah blah blahhhhhhh”. So incredibly transparent that this is a racist show itself. It would also be nice to hear a true version of history instead of the black version (bias creates falsism). The jews did in fact bring the africans to this land, NOT WHITES.

If you were smart enough you would realize that you will never tackle the issue of “racism” (which I refer to as racialism) by segregating the races of people in a metaphorical manner just by pointing out the racists' skin color alone. My point is is that, really, no matter how smart you are you can't alleviate the nature of human beings. It is nature's law to want to surround yourself with your own kind.

You are perpetuating segregation more so than abolishing it, just as the existence alone of black and brown organizations are. The show is truly boring. I suggest you try to make it a bit more entertaining by presenting debatable topics other than just “blamin da white man”. If you want to hear some wholesome, INTELLIGENT people talk over the radio visit www.stormfront.org. :)

WPWW - bootgrl


My response?

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Thank you for the information.

Webmaster


There is no need for me to get into a long debate with white people or non-white people about whether there is more than one race of people, who is more intelligent, etc. That discussion goes nowhere. There is no way to effectively debate white people about the existence of a SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) while you are a victim of the SYSTEM. That would be like a prisoner debating with the warden of a prison about the existence of a prison...while the prisoner is in the prison. Think about that. In a SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) white people have more credibility than non-white people.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The white people who practice racism (white supremacy) always get non-white people into long discussions that last for years in some instances, using a lot of words, that go nowhere.

Azikiwei, if you had been here when the board first opened you would have noticed that the counter racism science experiments section had the least amount of activity; especially among the white people who made visits to this site; why do you think that happened?

You can find out by running your own counter racism experiments on white people to find out if they are interested in revealing the BEST things nonwhite people should SAY and/or DO to counter racism; or if they just want to distract you with a "discussion of race" (usually in order to find out how much you know about it).

The key is to ask questions about the mechanics of HOW white people practice racism. once you start doing that, the white people will not want to "talk" with you anymore.

They will go find another nigger to distract (there's tons of em)

Use the opportunity of myspace to run your experiments and then you will see what works and what doesn't work to end the phenomenon of white people sending you "messages" composed of tons of words that go nowhere.

Josh
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